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adamo · Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: WHAT IS THE POINT?

HERE IS MY LAST POST, A REPLY TO THE FEEBLE FORUM POLICE CONCERNING 'ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME' THREAD.....
SEEYA ALL. Very Happy

[quote="adamo"]forget everything i've ever said, tonight on the telly the news says that over 30 people have been shot dead by a gunman in America,
.[/quote]

Firstly this is a tragic event that as a parent saddens me to the core, I am not often moved by the death of strangers (with the exeption of soldiers some things you never fully leave behind) but tonight i feel sad.

YES IT'S TRAGIC & I COMPARED IT TO THE RIDICULOUS ELVIS PROGRAMME BECAUSE IT ILLUSTRATES THE MADNESS THAT WE MAKE FOR OURSELVES IN THIS LIFE. PEOPLE DIE WHILE SOME IDIOT TRIES TO CONVINCE US THAT ELVIS TALKS TO HIM. AIN'T THAT ANOTHER KIND OF RELIGION?
I SAID 'FORGET EVERYTHING I'VE EVER SAID' BECAUSE GENERAL TATTOO *****-CHAT IS A LAZY LUXURY WE TAKE FOR GRANTED WHEN THERE'S STUFF LIKE THIS HAPPENING.

My thoughts go out to the 30 plus families that at this moment are going through hell.
YEAH MINE TOO BUT IT WON'T HELP THEM UNFORTUNATELY.

I think that this thread has run its course and should now be left alone religion can cause to many hurt feelings to be discussed on this site.

RELIGION CAN CAUSE TOO MANY HURT FEELINGS TO BE DISCUSSED ON THIS SITE?
WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? RELIGION ALWAYS CAUSES HURT TO THE POOR FUCKER NAILED UP OR BLOWN UP OR OSTRACISED FOR THE PARENTS BELIEFS FORCED ON THEM, ANY JOY THAT'S GAINED FROM RELIGION CAN BE FOUND WITHOUT THE FEAR.
HOW HAS THE THREAD RUN IT'S COURSE IF IT'S STILL ACTIVE?

Adamo this is in no way a reflection on yourself please feel free to remain on this site and continue to contribute I like people that are prepared to raise interesting threads and defend there personal veiws and beliefs I for one welcome ou to this site.

NO IT'S NOT A REFLECTION OF ME, IT'S A REFLECTION OF YOU.
WHAT'S THE POINT OF CONTRIBUTING TO A FORUM WHEN YOU GET CENSORED. YOU LIKE PEOPLE WHO RAISE INTERESTING THREADS & DEFEND THEIR PERSONAL BELIEFS?.........SO YOU LOCK IT?
WHY CAN'T WE SAY ANYTHING ABOUT RELIGION? IS IT BEYOND US COMMON PLEBS TO QUESTION IT?
I DON'T EXPECT ANSWERS TO THIS POST,
LET'S GO BACK TO ASKING WHERE WE SHOULD GET OUR NEXT TATTOO SO THE BOSS WON'T SEE IT HUH?
WELCOME TO ROME ADOLF.
OVER & OUT

In closing RIP guys may your familys find peace

oh_bugger · Tattoo addict Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 518

Ok fair points maybe i was a bit hasty in locking the thread hence it is now open again however the moment it becomes abusive or insulting it will be locked again.

rowdy · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:48 am Post subject: goodbye

Adamo whats causing all this anger in you,we all know religion has caused more death and destruction than anything else in the world.please dont have a go at the mods they are really nice people they have a hard time trying to stop us all killing each other .if ya leave ya running away dont do that stay just try to curb the anger a little.why do you regret the death of a soldier more ? were you one once.i think you have a lot of valid things to say just stay and p,m if ya like ,anyhoo all the best .

Liz · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 7:33 am Post subject:

LETS JUST MAYBE DELETE THIS THREAD! I know most forums would. Religion, cruelty and personal attacks aren't tolerated on other forums. I agreed with the lock.

Also why can't we have a tattoo forum where people can come to escape the realism of life. I think that is a point of a hobby forum.

My sympathies to Americans and others in the shooting.

rowdy · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 4:20 pm Post subject:

CAN i maybe have a say and hope not to upset people,ok here goes, FREEDOM of choice is not always a good thing.FREEDOM of speech is a different matter,ill explain i used to be a firearm owner.I owned three handguns ,1 semi auto pistol and 2 revolvers. After the dunblane school massacre i decided that the privelage of me being able to enjoy my hobby (shooting) and keeping guns at home is not worth the life of one child,so i handed my firearms in and stopped shooting.my point is we do not have the automatic right to own a gun .Maybe if the americans woke up to this fact and banned civilian gun ownership things might slowly change for the better.If youre thinking most crime is done with illegally owned guns ,remember hungerford massacre commited by legally owned guns,remember ,dunblane massacre commited by legally owned guns.we can never stop this kind of thing but maybe if america bans all private gun ownership who knows how many atrocaties we may prevent .have your say but for gods sake keep it civil please.

oh_bugger · Tattoo addict Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 518

Good post Rowdy

I really enjoy shooting (but im very bad at it) I have shot for most of my life in one form or another.

I am now lucky enough to do volunteer work for a youth organisation where i get the odd chance to shoot I am also authorised to run certain types of ranges firing .22 and 5.56 weapons.

In my experience the kids i work with really enjoying firing, and are fully trained by myself and other adults in how to shoot and more importantly how to handle and respect weapons, hence they are so concious of weapon saftey in thousands of rounds fired i have yet to see an accident (with the kids).

I have seen accidents on ranges with trained soldiers and the consequences are terrible.

Your point regarding the life of one child is so true and is the overiding consideration i believe.

However I feel that the gun laws in this country may be slightly over restrictive however if it prevents the sort of occurnece that America has seen then it is fully worthwhile.

I can recall after the Dunblane massacre my partners (at the time) father had to surrender certain firearms that he possesed and I can recall how sad he was I also recall him noing that it was for the best.

It is always a difficult choice between personal rights and the possible danger to society as a whole however in this day and age the rights of people as a whole must come before the rights of an individual where possible.

As a side note when the right for Americans to bear arms was granted the weapons in question where single shot muskets, we now live in an age where assualt rifles are capable of fireing 30 high velocity rounds in a matter of seconds, time to update the constituition maybe ?

rowdy · Posted: Tue Apr 17, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: guns

couldnt agree more o,b what in gods name can justify owning a 7.62 calibre ak you cant hunt with them unless youre hunting humans how can it be right to be able to outgun law enforcement,remember the northwood cali bank raid two men keeping dozens of police at bay because they were so heavily tooled up.America has tried private gun ownership it doesnt work ,isnt it time to try another way??. i think the idea that only bad guys have guns so good guys need them to is statistically wrong most people killed by guns in america ,you guessed it legally owned guns by members of the same family or friends,not burglers or robbers.Anyhoo ive had my say keep the guns locked at gun clubs not at home.god bless the victims from last night . Crying or Very sad

chic · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:20 am Post subject:

So Adamo do you want us to delete this thread because what says goes...

And insulting the forum moderators, is not the way to go...

If you no longer feel that you can not post in this forum, then please do it quietly...and dont post.!!!!

Also if you want to be taken off the members list then so be it...

Religion and Politics, will NOT be discussed on this forum...(it causes to much trouble)

rowdy · Posted: Wed Apr 18, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: well said

well said chic peace and pleasent is what we want .

Liz · Posted: Thu Apr 19, 2007 5:40 am Post subject:

I agree too Smile

Remember the Australian Port Arther Massacre when a man shot 34 people dead? Well that was in my state, Tasmania. An hour from where I live. It continues to be the biggest shooting by one person. Australia banned most guns because of that incident. I think it has dramatically helped Australia so I think it'd help America. But the IRA or gun association there will always win in their "rights to freedom".