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Princessinpain

Hi! I'm not seeking medical advice. I'm posting my journal/sequence of events, in hopes that I can find out if I'm the only one on this planet that has experienced this, or if I can talk to other people who have had the same problem.

All treatments have been performed at two different places in Dallas, Texas.

First through Fourth treatments:
No anesthesia or numbing cream. Just the cooling system during laser treatment.
Affinity QS laser: Q-switched Nd:YAG

First treatment: Aug 2008
No significant events, minor blistering, scabbing.

Second treatment: Sep 2008
No significant events, minor blistering, scabbing.

Third treatment: Oct 2008
-Significant blistering after using a “black ink” wavelength and then immediately going over same site again with a “color ink” wavelength. Reasoning for two lasers at once, I was told, was that it would help bust up the ink more.
-Body shudders from waist down to toes at night. Felt like a wave of energy surging from waist down and involuntary movement of legs out to toes.
-Two areas got deeply infected, turned green and was pitted. Used Iodine to get rid of infection.

Fourth treatment: Dec 2008:
-Severe blistering after using a “black ink” wavelength and then going over same site again with a “color ink” wavelength.
-Body shudders from waist down to toes at night. Felt like a wave of energy surging from waist down and involuntary movement of legs out to toes.
-Blistering the size of quarters and nickels all over site.
-Also burned skin from cooling hose.
-The blisters had clear/honey thin liquid in them and the owner told me to pop them and they will heal better.
-Went to Dermatologist and didn't use the steroid crème he provided due to the possible pigmentation issue. Did take antibiotics to prevent infection.

Decided not to go back to that place, as the last two sessions were performed by two people that only shadowed an experienced laser specialist for a month before using the laser on their own patients. HORRENDOUS business practice I might add.

Fifth treatment: Jan 2008 & Sixth treatment: Mar 2008
Performed at a new place in Dallas.
Used Lidocaine injections for numbing prior to and during treatment.
Versa Pulse laser.
-No blisters, a lot of bleeding night of treatment.
-(Fifth treatment) Immediately after Lidocaine injections wore off the “taser” feeling began. Unbearable “taser” feeling directly at site.
-(Sixth treatment) “Taser” feeling didn't begin until about 20 hours later, as soon as I started to take a shower.

Defining: “Taser” feeling was/is a consistent pulsing (not with heartbeat pulse) and exacerbated to disability to move/function by loud sounds, sudden car braking, misstep while walking, sneezing, coughing, sleeping in different positions, heat, direct sunlight (not site, but entire body), accidentally cutting finger while cooking, showering (unless water is directly on site), brushing hair, using blow dryer on hair, washing hands with warm water, dog barking... really, I'd like to know what doesn't exacerbate the pain!!!

I went to a Neurologist between the fifth and sixth treatments and had a lower back MRI and results “all showed normal, which [led him] to believe that the problem is muscle/soft tissue.”

I have two sites that have been treated at the exact same time. One on my rib cage, that is 3x4, and it has not had ANY problems at all. All of these problems and reactions only come from my lower back, that is 3x8.

-I'm almost certain this nerve pain/tasering sensation has to do with scar tissue from the blistering on the third and fourth sessions.
-Or I've started something awful, neurologically wise, and I'm going to regret continuing to get this removed in the long run.

No one I've talked to has ever heard of this problem/sensation. Please help me figure out what is going wrong and what I should do to stop it. I'm begging!

Norfolk Tattoo Removal

hello,

sorry to hear about your problem, got a couple of questions that might be able to help you.

did your tattoo have red ink in it from the beginnning? did the provider only use the 1064 or black wavelengh before you had problems?

did the first provider treat both areas? did they do the secondary 532 or red wavelengh on both areas per 3rd and fourth treatments?

email is fine at at

john delaney

[quote="Princessinpain"]Hi! I'm not seeking medical advice. I'm posting my journal/sequence of events, in hopes that I can find out if I'm the only one on this planet that has experienced this, or if I can talk to other people who have had the same problem.

All treatments have been performed at two different places in Dallas, Texas.

First through Fourth treatments:
No anesthesia or numbing cream. Just the cooling system during laser treatment.
Affinity QS laser: Q-switched Nd:YAG

First treatment: Aug 2008
No significant events, minor blistering, scabbing.

Second treatment: Sep 2008
No significant events, minor blistering, scabbing.

Third treatment: Oct 2008
-Significant blistering after using a “black ink” wavelength and then immediately going over same site again with a “color ink” wavelength. Reasoning for two lasers at once, I was told, was that it would help bust up the ink more.
-Body shudders from waist down to toes at night. Felt like a wave of energy surging from waist down and involuntary movement of legs out to toes.
-Two areas got deeply infected, turned green and was pitted. Used Iodine to get rid of infection.

Fourth treatment: Dec 2008:
-Severe blistering after using a “black ink” wavelength and then going over same site again with a “color ink” wavelength.
-Body shudders from waist down to toes at night. Felt like a wave of energy surging from waist down and involuntary movement of legs out to toes.
-Blistering the size of quarters and nickels all over site.
-Also burned skin from cooling hose.
-The blisters had clear/honey thin liquid in them and the owner told me to pop them and they will heal better.
-Went to Dermatologist and didn't use the steroid crème he provided due to the possible pigmentation issue. Did take antibiotics to prevent infection.

Decided not to go back to that place, as the last two sessions were performed by two people that only shadowed an experienced laser specialist for a month before using the laser on their own patients. HORRENDOUS business practice I might add.

Fifth treatment: Jan 2008 & Sixth treatment: Mar 2008
Performed at a new place in Dallas.
Used Lidocaine injections for numbing prior to and during treatment.
Versa Pulse laser.
-No blisters, a lot of bleeding night of treatment.
-(Fifth treatment) Immediately after Lidocaine injections wore off the “taser” feeling began. Unbearable “taser” feeling directly at site.
-(Sixth treatment) “Taser” feeling didn't begin until about 20 hours later, as soon as I started to take a shower.

Defining: “Taser” feeling was/is a consistent pulsing (not with heartbeat pulse) and exacerbated to disability to move/function by loud sounds, sudden car braking, misstep while walking, sneezing, coughing, sleeping in different positions, heat, direct sunlight (not site, but entire body), accidentally cutting finger while cooking, showering (unless water is directly on site), brushing hair, using blow dryer on hair, washing hands with warm water, dog barking... really, I'd like to know what doesn't exacerbate the pain!!!

I went to a Neurologist between the fifth and sixth treatments and had a lower back MRI and results “all showed normal, which [led him] to believe that the problem is muscle/soft tissue.”

I have two sites that have been treated at the exact same time. One on my rib cage, that is 3x4, and it has not had ANY problems at all. All of these problems and reactions only come from my lower back, that is 3x8.

-I'm almost certain this nerve pain/tasering sensation has to do with scar tissue from the blistering on the third and fourth sessions.
-Or I've started something awful, neurologically wise, and I'm going to regret continuing to get this removed in the long run.

No one I've talked to has ever heard of this problem/sensation. Please help me figure out what is going wrong and what I should do to stop it. I'm begging![/quote]

Princessinpain · Posted: Sat May 02, 2009 11:23 pm Post subject:

John,

Thank you for your reply! Here are the answers to your questions:

No red ink that I know of; unless the artist mixed the colors well before I showed up. All I saw was a black ink container (like the kind of tiny container that dentists have for toothpaste when you get a cleaning; but it looked professional to me).

Yes, the provider only used the 1064 on the first two treatments. The third and fourth treatments were with both, 1064 and 532.

Yes, the provider treated both areas like that, and yes both areas on 3rd and 4th.

I still haven't had a treatment since I posted this and have decided to take at least 6 months off my back and continue with my side. About once a week I'm breaking out in hives, but more on the 3 x 9 portion on my lower back, than the 3 x 4 section on my rib cage.

Any thoughts on what you may think would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you for your time!

Norfolk Tattoo Removal · Posted: Fri May 08, 2009 9:09 am Post subject: tattoo removal info

Hello,

sorry so long on the reply but i was asking about the red ink in the tattoo, not any hidden mixtures. So your tattoo was totally black with no red color in it visibly? The reason i ask is if it did, i dont know why the didnt use both wavelenths from the beginning. If it didnt, i dont know why they would ever user the 532 wavelengh. you had mentioned to break up more ink but if you were having success with the 1064, and with minimal side effcts why change protol?

[quote="Princessinpain"]John,

Thank you for your reply! Here are the answers to your questions:

No red ink that I know of; unless the artist mixed the colors well before I showed up. All I saw was a black ink container (like the kind of tiny container that dentists have for toothpaste when you get a cleaning; but it looked professional to me).

Yes, the provider only used the 1064 on the first two treatments. The third and fourth treatments were with both, 1064 and 532.

Yes, the provider treated both areas like that, and yes both areas on 3rd and 4th.

I still haven't had a treatment since I posted this and have decided to take at least 6 months off my back and continue with my side. About once a week I'm breaking out in hives, but more on the 3 x 9 portion on my lower back, than the 3 x 4 section on my rib cage.

Any thoughts on what you may think would be greatly appreciated!

Thank you for your time![/quote]